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Welding question

Post by Big Steve » January 19th, 2014, 11:24 pm

Seeking your input on welding methods for RFS. I've been told that wire feed welders do not penetrate well which could lead to a failure of a weld in the firebox. The reasoning given was a firebox gets hot and can warp. That force can break a wire feed weld if it's not perfect. So my question is wire feed or arc preferred when welding up a RFS. Is there an advantage of one over the other or is it just a matter of what welding machinary you own or have access to?



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Re: Welding question

Post by jaybird302 » January 20th, 2014, 1:00 am

I think, in my opinion, it's more important how your equipment is set up. A poorly set up(voltage, feed rate) mig will not penetrate and get deep enough, but the same is true with stick and tig. I used a stick welder on mine with good results, but if I had the green for a mig at the time then that is what I'd have used. Sure a more powerful mig machine will give you greater capacity for what material thickness you can weld in a single pass, but they can also be set wrong and make just as big a mess as a smaller machine incorrectly set. To me, it's all about knowing your equipment and practicing. That's my 2 cents worth.

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Re: Welding question

Post by PetesMeat » January 20th, 2014, 3:51 am

Everything I do is 100 percent tig welded. Its incredibly slow, and requires two hands, you cant get into some places that you can with mig, and the argon is expensive, but the welds are really strong, and the heat penetrates very well.

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Re: Welding question

Post by Clover Ridge Smokers » January 20th, 2014, 8:54 am

I built cookers using both Mig and Arc and have never had a problem. Like JayBird said it's all in the setup of your equipment.
When it comes to Mig, you need to make sure your machine is designed to weld the thickness of the metal you are welding. This is where I've seen people make mistakes. Their machine is too small to weld something like 1/4"


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Re: Welding question

Post by vizion » January 21st, 2014, 1:19 pm

I use a small 110 mig welder on my cookers and have had no problems with them (YET!!!). I have welded up to 1/4 inch plate with mine.. I wouldnt want to try to weld anything thicker than that thou... On the 1/4 inch stuff I have to bevel the edges of the metal to insure I have good penatration but other than the fb and bp I dont go that thick.... And the 110 is good for when I do my automotive welding.


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Re: Welding question

Post by Rodcrafter » January 21st, 2014, 1:25 pm

I use a Miller 200 mig, it will weld any thickness and is a tough as nails machine.


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Re: Welding question

Post by mazdaparts » January 22nd, 2014, 9:33 am

As the others have said it how your machine is set up, its capabilities, and the prep work you do on the metal. I have mig welded the parts to my backyard fire pit and it has seen some serious heat, no warping or cracking yet.


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Re: Re: Welding question

Post by shskr » January 24th, 2014, 7:41 pm

Rodcrafter wrote:I use a Miller 200 mig, it will weld any thickness and is a tough as nails machine.
Mine is the same, never had a problem.



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Re: Welding question

Post by TRC » January 28th, 2014, 7:52 pm

I have a Miller 200 mig at work and it works great if set right. At home I have a Miller 180 tig/arc welder and it works good for thinner stuff. For 1/4 or thicker I stick weld with 1/8 dia MG 500 arc welding rod and it is very easy to weld with and gives a strong good looking weld.



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Re: Welding question

Post by Big T » January 28th, 2014, 9:31 pm

I also use a mig and I haven't had any problems. One advantage to using a mig is that you don't have to stop and change rods, you just pull the trigger and you can lay down a steady bead as long as you want as long as you don't burn through. It's like the other guys have said if you use proper techniques and a properly set machine you'll be fine with either stick or mig.


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