Reverse flow insulated cabinet

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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » August 28th, 2014, 10:24 pm

I need help, been using my new smoker and learning how it works and I have a question. How come my water pan isn't going empty? I seem to be using very little if any water at all.

What I have between the cooking chamber and the fire box is as follows. Fire box, charcoal basket is 7 inches tall, about 3 inch above that is expanded metal supporting fire brick which is 1 1/2" thick on top of that sits a 3/16" steel plate, which is the bottom of my cooking chamber, in the cooking chamber I set the water pan directly on the plate. The water pan holds 5 gallons of water.

After 6 to 7 hours today at 250 the water pan was still full.

The food seems to taste okay. Do I have a solvable problem or should I just cook on the way it is?



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by onesquin » August 28th, 2014, 11:55 pm

Can grease from the food drip in the water?



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » August 29th, 2014, 12:06 am

Yep and on to the steel plate around the water pan



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Gizmo » August 29th, 2014, 4:48 am

I bet your water level is down slightly - but barely noticeable.

That particular cooker design has a very slow air exchange with the outside air so any condensate that comes off the water is hauled away at a very slow rate. Put another way: Once the air inside the CC becomes saturated with moisture then no more condensate can leave your water pan.

You could try putting a 1/4 inch deep water supply in the bottom of your pan to see if you can boil that off cooking a boston butt. If you end up adding water throughout the cook then keep records - pretty soon you'll know exactly how much water to start with for a long cook.

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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Pete Mazz » August 29th, 2014, 4:54 am

With a reverse flow the water pan is mostly a drip pan, especially with the fire brick and steel barrier between the FB and CC. Most of the heat/smoke goes around it. On my vertical, a 6-7 hour cook wouldn't go thru more than a gallon of water or so and I use the water pan as a baffle plate/heat sink of sorts.


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » August 29th, 2014, 10:11 am

Thanks for the info guys, I'll keep at it and get a few more cooks under my belt before I start to panic. I took a temp reading of the steel plate last night. The CC was at 275 and the steel plate was reading about 400. I've only done ribs and mac n cheese so far, can't wait till I get to try brisket



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » August 30th, 2014, 9:27 am

So do I dare try it with out water? Or will it be too hard to control the temp?



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Rodcrafter » August 30th, 2014, 11:19 am

It will be easy to control as long as there are sealed doors. Most people don't use water in their cookers.


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Pete Mazz » August 30th, 2014, 11:58 am

You might want to line your drip/water pan with foil or an aluminum tray. The drippings will make a mess of things and at 400 degrees the fat will burn off. I use the steam table disposable pans from Sam's Cub or Costco as they fit almost perfectly in my smoker. Another option is to add sand to the pan to act as a heat sink.


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » November 10th, 2014, 3:02 pm

Finally got it painted and all finished.
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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Mankussm » November 10th, 2014, 4:04 pm

Holy smokes!!! That's a cool vertical setup.


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Rodcrafter » November 10th, 2014, 5:01 pm

Very nice [BEER MUG]


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by bluecatfish » November 10th, 2014, 7:33 pm

:LG: :LG:
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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Big T » November 10th, 2014, 11:30 pm

:kewl: That's a sharp looking rig !!


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Pete Mazz » November 11th, 2014, 5:46 am

Wow! Very nice. :beer:


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Gizmo » November 11th, 2014, 8:02 am

Very Qoooole! :kewl:


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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by cancerboyuofa » November 12th, 2014, 12:15 am

Looks great. What kind of paint did you use?

What type of insulation?

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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » November 12th, 2014, 12:52 am

I just used a enamal paint from the hardware store and a spray gun. I did follow all other recommended steps and used all the same brand of primer/paint. Insulation is just a fire resistant rated at 1500 degrees



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by nightperson » November 30th, 2014, 1:32 am

whats the gap at the top of your false wall?



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by Puff » November 30th, 2014, 9:21 am

Beautiful work....looks like it should be in the kitchen instead of the refrigerator

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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » December 1st, 2014, 12:27 am

The gap is one inch.



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Re: Reverse flow insulated cabinet

Post by rockcrawler74 » December 1st, 2014, 12:30 am

I've got the unit up for sale locally, hoping to sell it and build another just like it and put alittle cash in pocket.

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