First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

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First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by 12ring » August 12th, 2017, 2:55 am

I'm new to this site and to the Tapatalk app so I'm going to try a few pictures of what I started with and if it looks ok I'll post other pictures of my progress so far.

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Re: First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by 12ring » August 12th, 2017, 3:30 am

Looks like the pictures worked so I'll post a few more but first I'll give a quick run down. I haven't welded since high school 20 years ago. I'm using a stick welder and me and my buddy are sharing the welding duties. I V beveled most of it so I can grind the welds that aren't pretty.

I made a makeshift plenum and stack to see if I liked it. I did like it.

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Welded the end plates on both the CC and FB.


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Fit the two together and welded them in place.

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Cut all the pieces to the plenum, welded it together and then got it lined up where I think I'm going to put it. I get conflicting opinions on where the stack should be. Some like it high as you can get it and others like it grate level. I would like to hear your opinions as well.

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Cut the fire box door and that's how it sits now. Next up I want to get the frame built so I can get it upright. At that point I'll fab the hinges and get the door on.

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Re: First time builder. 20

Post by Pete Mazz » August 12th, 2017, 4:59 am

Looks great! I'd recommend a grease dam in an offset.


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Post by Big T » August 12th, 2017, 11:10 am

:yth: I mount the stack as high as possible.
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Post by ajfoxy » August 12th, 2017, 7:32 pm

Looking good. Nice bit of CAD (cardboard aided design) on the plenum. :kewl:


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Post by Squiggle » August 14th, 2017, 6:14 am

Nice work dude, looks great! :kewl:


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Post by Rodcrafter » August 14th, 2017, 2:30 pm

:LG: :beer: :LG:


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Re: First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by 12ring » August 19th, 2017, 6:52 pm

I'm about to fab up my fire grate and I'm wondering it these numbers look ok? If my grate is 14" wide, it leaves me 3" from the center of the cc to the bottom of the grate and 10" from the grate to the bottom of the FB to cc opening. Here is the pics. Let me know if this will be ok.

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Re: First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by 12ring » August 19th, 2017, 11:33 pm

Plenum welded on. Fire grate fabricated. Dying to get it on a frame. The he stack is 30" but feldons calculator called for a 20.5" stack. Another guy told me I need it to be 26" so I may split the difference and go 24".

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Post by ajfoxy » August 20th, 2017, 1:53 am

Looking good.


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Post by Squiggle » August 20th, 2017, 2:24 am

Looks awesome dude. :beer:

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Post by 12ring » August 20th, 2017, 6:30 am

12ring wrote:Plenum welded on. Fire grate fabricated. Dying to get it on a frame. The stack in the picture is 30". Feldons calculator called for a 20.5" stack. Another guy told me I need it to be 34". I'm not real sure what to do about the length because 30" even looks overkill to me.

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Post by mp4 » August 20th, 2017, 7:45 am

12ring wrote:I'm about to fab up my fire grate and I'm wondering it these numbers look ok? If my grate is 14" wide, it leaves me 3" from the center of the cc to the bottom of the grate and 10" from the grate to the bottom of the FB to cc opening. Here is the pics. Let me know if this will be ok.

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You may want to raise it up at least a couple more inches. I didn't leave enough space below mine and the ash would pile up to the grate on long cooks. I modified mine afterwards and then had room to pre-heat the splits too.



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Re: First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by Rodcrafter » August 20th, 2017, 8:30 am

You're doing a great job! I would like to point out that more than 3/4" gap on FB grate may cause most all of the coals to fall through. You can always throw a piece of cooking grate on top of it if it presents a problem.


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Post by 12ring » August 20th, 2017, 9:50 pm

Rodcrafter wrote:You're doing a great job! I would like to point out that more than 3/4" gap on FB grate may cause most all of the coals to fall through. You can always throw a piece of cooking grate on top of it if it presents a problem.


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Thanks. The fire grate spaces are 1/2" wide. I still may lay some expanded metal over it if I need to.


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Re: First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by 12ring » August 21st, 2017, 5:25 pm

Got the frame welded up. Going to weld on some casters and then wrangle up a few buddies to help me lift it on. Hopefully my measurements are right.

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Post by Big T » August 21st, 2017, 6:32 pm

You must have some really good friends :beer:
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Post by ajfoxy » August 21st, 2017, 6:33 pm

:yth:
Or a large beer fridge...


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Post by Rodcrafter » August 22nd, 2017, 6:42 am

:LG:

That grate spacing will work great.


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Post by temurf » August 22nd, 2017, 6:23 pm

Big T wrote:You must have some really good friends :beer:
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ajfoxy wrote: :yth:
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Post by Squiggle » August 24th, 2017, 4:03 am

Looks awesome dude, well done! :kewl:


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Post by behind bars bbq » August 25th, 2017, 8:21 pm

Looking good!

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Re: First time builder. 20"x40" ish.

Post by 12ring » August 25th, 2017, 9:31 pm

So the fire box intake is driving me nuts. I can't figure out a good design. The square design doesn't allow me to center the squares on the door which will make me nuts every time I look at them.

The triangles are a little above the fire grate. I have heard that you want the intake right at, or below grate level. Others have told me it's not that big of deal though. ImageImageImage

Right now I think I'm leaning toward the triangles.

Like a dummy I had the door upside down when I did the CAD (cardboard aided design) drawing.

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Re: First time builder. 20

Post by ajfoxy » August 25th, 2017, 9:47 pm

You could always make them round.


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Re: First time builder. 20

Post by Sparx1138 » August 25th, 2017, 9:54 pm

One thing I'm thinking about doing when I finally start my build is to center a rectangular air inlet on the end of the firebox and make my damper door slide vertically, kind of like a guillotine. I still haven't worked out in my head what kind of actuator I'm going to use for it though. I was thinking a lever with some type of index so I can lock the door in place when open.



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