More I research the more confused it get

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More I research the more confused it get

Post by MedicMike » March 23rd, 2021, 2:07 pm

I am probably going to annoy you people with random questions. So the more have read on things concerning sizing the firebox to the cook chamber I have noticed people seem to say your FB should be 107%-115% the size of the cook chamber.

The more I look around online I see all these different companies and the smokers they sell. I came across a company called “Gator Pits of Texas”. I see the various smokers he sells and I like them.

So back to sizing the FB to the CC - when I enter in his sizes into the pit calculator they all seem to cook out to being 150%. It seems like it works for him and his company/pits. My understanding was to try not to exceed 115%.

What am I missing here?


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Post by Big T » March 23rd, 2021, 2:35 pm

I think that it goes back to the old saying that you can make anything work if you have the time and patients. If you build using the calculators recommendation you can expect your pit to burn 2-3 small splits every 45-60 minutes at 225-250 degrees. If you have an oversized FB you'll have do some test burns to try and figure the required fuel and the timing on refueling.


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Post by dacolson » March 23rd, 2021, 2:38 pm

I just replied to your Too Big question. Check out this thread as well. Some interesting thoughts here:
https://smokerbuilder.com/forums/viewto ... =11&t=3953
Good write up on BTUs from Frank on this one:
http://smokerbuilder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4412



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Re: More I research the more confused it get

Post by Kcd2016 » March 23rd, 2021, 2:45 pm

Just to clarify the firebox should be about 1/3 cc then add 5 to 10%. So 35 to 37% of cc.

You're right, looking at the Texas 1845 the fb is 50% of the cc. I can't comment on who's right or who's wrong. Folks on this forum have been getting along really well with the rules of thumbs posted above. I'd say don't worry about those guys and go with the calculators.

FWIW I'm reverse engineering a competition smoker right now and as near as I can tell the fb comes in just barely under 1/3 the cc. (not sure what the ethics are on that..? The design isn't original anyway)



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Post by dacolson » March 23rd, 2021, 4:29 pm

To Kcd2016’s point, you can definitely over think this. The calcs work. Has to be a thousand+ pits that have been built with these calcs. They are ideal for a first build for sure. There are a bunch of folks out there who say calcs don’t matter. You can guess and get close. I’m not smart enough to do that. Lol


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Post by Big T » March 23rd, 2021, 7:35 pm

I built a few different style smokers before I found out that there was a formula for designing them. I was eventually able to get each one of them to work but they all had some serious issues and I couldn't figure out why. I started searching the web and I found another site that had a calculator and that led to the discovery of this site. I'm not sure how many that I've built using the calculator but I haven't had any major issues with any of them so I will always recommend that a new builder sticks real close to the calculators sizing. Once you've built a few of them you start to figure out little tweaks here and there to make them a little better than the previous build. Anyone that has ever built a pit will tell you that there's a lot of work that goes into building one and the last thing that you'd want is for it to not work worth a darn when you're finished.


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Re: More I research the more confused it get

Post by Dirtytires » March 24th, 2021, 10:23 am

A lot of information on the internet...and yes, much of it is conflicting. In the end, you have to decide what you want to follow and what ideas make sense to you. However, pick one calculator or thought process and stick with it.



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