Thanks, Dirtytires!!Dirtytires wrote: ↑October 1st, 2020, 10:27 amJust me, but I would drop a few pieces of rebar in the middle (top to bottom) of your form. The rebar will support it and keep it together If the concrete cracks. I would not think you would need any further insulation or sand as the mass of the concrete should be adequate.
I don't have any experience with water pans in a vertical CC. That being said my thoughts were referring to a way to buffer the direct heat coming from a stick burning FB. I know the heat sink that a water pan creates does that also. I just believe you would have to keep the water pan auto filling in order to keep it near the same temp. As the water level goes down the temp goes up, and back and forth it goes. An air gap created by 2 plates separated can maintain an constant temp. I'm just not really a fan of water pans, I've used them in my RF and really all I got was a wet CC with some rust showing up in places. I read an article on AmazingRibs.com written by Meathead, he was explaining how a muscle tightens up when exposed to heat and as a result no water from the outside gets into the meat so the trade off wasn't really worth it. But hey I'm not trying to change your mind, just offering an idea.Cole Leffert wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2020, 12:29 pmI'm not sure I understand how that will help (not saying it won't... I just dont understand)? The whole area between fire and cc is a bit of a mystery to me! What is the goal for my heat coming through the cc... do I want it coming up the center, around the edges or both? I do plan on having a water pan in there if that matters? Thanks!Rodcrafter wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2020, 8:25 amCole,
I would put an baffle plate between the FB and CC leaving the gap on the sides say 1-1/2 inches. Then as much as 4" above that, do it again with the opening in the center with you adjustable plate there.
Thanks Rodcrafter for all the good info! I will read that article to get a better understanding of the water and meat during cooking. I have very little experience smoking meat, so I have been trying to make my smoker as flexible as possible to cover as many techniques as possible.Rodcrafter wrote: ↑October 7th, 2020, 7:01 amI don't have any experience with water pans in a vertical CC. That being said my thoughts were referring to a way to buffer the direct heat coming from a stick burning FB. I know the heat sink that a water pan creates does that also. I just believe you would have to keep the water pan auto filling in order to keep it near the same temp. As the water level goes down the temp goes up, and back and forth it goes. An air gap created by 2 plates separated can maintain an constant temp. I'm just not really a fan of water pans, I've used them in my RF and really all I got was a wet CC with some rust showing up in places. I read an article on AmazingRibs.com written by Meathead, he was explaining how a muscle tightens up when exposed to heat and as a result no water from the outside gets into the meat so the trade off wasn't really worth it. But hey I'm not trying to change your mind, just offering an idea.Cole Leffert wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2020, 12:29 pmI'm not sure I understand how that will help (not saying it won't... I just dont understand)? The whole area between fire and cc is a bit of a mystery to me! What is the goal for my heat coming through the cc... do I want it coming up the center, around the edges or both? I do plan on having a water pan in there if that matters? Thanks!Rodcrafter wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2020, 8:25 amCole,
I would put an baffle plate between the FB and CC leaving the gap on the sides say 1-1/2 inches. Then as much as 4" above that, do it again with the opening in the center with you adjustable plate there.
Nice looking patio! I like the trellis you have! Something like that would be great to have over my area! It would help a lot with the heat of the sun!towtruck wrote: ↑October 17th, 2020, 8:12 pmI have an area on my back patio I was going to build in a set up like yours. I have water, sewer, and natural gas within feet of it and could enclose it all up to the house and have a great set up with a sink, natural gas BBQ, and a smoker on the end. The only thing stopping me from building it is our summers are too hot to be outside comfortably. We never go out on the patio in the summer and the rest of the year we would not use it enough. I still may build it some day anyway.
I want to put it behind this wall and attach it to the house on the left and go all the way out to the end of the wall.