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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by dacolson » September 29th, 2020, 12:55 pm

As long as you are using dampers, I don't see why not. I forget, are you using a fan based pit temp controller? Dampers will be required for that.



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » September 29th, 2020, 1:10 pm

I do not plan on using a fan but I would like to have it capable in case I change my mind.



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Dirtytires » September 30th, 2020, 10:53 am

Yep, it’s overkill....lol.

Don’t see any problems and if you have dampers they can always be tuned a bit if needed.



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » September 30th, 2020, 12:31 pm

I'm glad you guys aren't seeing any problems with that because I had my heart set on those two big stacks!!! :D



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » September 30th, 2020, 12:48 pm

I am struggling to figure out how to do my ceiling in the smoker! My plan as of now is to put a piece of 16 gauge steel plate over the opening. It will have angle iron welded on it for support of the stacks and concrete above. I will also weld the stacks to the angle iron for support. Then I will either put sand on that or brick or brick and sand. After I put up forms around the cinder block frame I would pour concrete on that. Would the metal, sand and brick be enough insulation to protect the concrete or do I need to come up with something completely different?



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » September 30th, 2020, 4:01 pm

This may help with my explanation in above post.
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Post by Dirtytires » October 1st, 2020, 10:27 am

Just me, but I would drop a few pieces of rebar in the middle (top to bottom) of your form. The rebar will support it and keep it together If the concrete cracks. I would not think you would need any further insulation or sand as the mass of the concrete should be adequate.



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Post by Cole Leffert » October 1st, 2020, 12:34 pm

Dirtytires wrote:
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Just me, but I would drop a few pieces of rebar in the middle (top to bottom) of your form. The rebar will support it and keep it together If the concrete cracks. I would not think you would need any further insulation or sand as the mass of the concrete should be adequate.
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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » October 4th, 2020, 8:53 am

Got a little more done this weekend.
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Post by dacolson » October 4th, 2020, 6:14 pm

The alternating brickwork looks awesome.



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Post by Cole Leffert » October 4th, 2020, 7:24 pm

dacolson wrote:
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The alternating brickwork looks awesome.
Thanks!!



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Post by Big T » October 4th, 2020, 10:44 pm

:LG: :LG:


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Post by Cole Leffert » October 5th, 2020, 7:34 am

Thanks Big T!



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by towtruck » October 5th, 2020, 9:35 am

That is looking good!



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Post by Cole Leffert » October 5th, 2020, 9:47 am

Thanks towtruck!



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Rodcrafter » October 7th, 2020, 7:01 am

Cole Leffert wrote:
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I would put an baffle plate between the FB and CC leaving the gap on the sides say 1-1/2 inches. Then as much as 4" above that, do it again with the opening in the center with you adjustable plate there.
I'm not sure I understand how that will help (not saying it won't... I just dont understand)? The whole area between fire and cc is a bit of a mystery to me! What is the goal for my heat coming through the cc... do I want it coming up the center, around the edges or both? I do plan on having a water pan in there if that matters? Thanks!
I don't have any experience with water pans in a vertical CC. That being said my thoughts were referring to a way to buffer the direct heat coming from a stick burning FB. I know the heat sink that a water pan creates does that also. I just believe you would have to keep the water pan auto filling in order to keep it near the same temp. As the water level goes down the temp goes up, and back and forth it goes. An air gap created by 2 plates separated can maintain an constant temp. I'm just not really a fan of water pans, I've used them in my RF and really all I got was a wet CC with some rust showing up in places. I read an article on AmazingRibs.com written by Meathead, he was explaining how a muscle tightens up when exposed to heat and as a result no water from the outside gets into the meat so the trade off wasn't really worth it. But hey I'm not trying to change your mind, just offering an idea.


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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » October 7th, 2020, 8:14 am

Rodcrafter wrote:
October 7th, 2020, 7:01 am
Cole Leffert wrote:
September 23rd, 2020, 12:29 pm
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I would put an baffle plate between the FB and CC leaving the gap on the sides say 1-1/2 inches. Then as much as 4" above that, do it again with the opening in the center with you adjustable plate there.
I'm not sure I understand how that will help (not saying it won't... I just dont understand)? The whole area between fire and cc is a bit of a mystery to me! What is the goal for my heat coming through the cc... do I want it coming up the center, around the edges or both? I do plan on having a water pan in there if that matters? Thanks!
I don't have any experience with water pans in a vertical CC. That being said my thoughts were referring to a way to buffer the direct heat coming from a stick burning FB. I know the heat sink that a water pan creates does that also. I just believe you would have to keep the water pan auto filling in order to keep it near the same temp. As the water level goes down the temp goes up, and back and forth it goes. An air gap created by 2 plates separated can maintain an constant temp. I'm just not really a fan of water pans, I've used them in my RF and really all I got was a wet CC with some rust showing up in places. I read an article on AmazingRibs.com written by Meathead, he was explaining how a muscle tightens up when exposed to heat and as a result no water from the outside gets into the meat so the trade off wasn't really worth it. But hey I'm not trying to change your mind, just offering an idea.
Thanks Rodcrafter for all the good info! I will read that article to get a better understanding of the water and meat during cooking. I have very little experience smoking meat, so I have been trying to make my smoker as flexible as possible to cover as many techniques as possible.



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » October 17th, 2020, 6:18 pm

Got a little farther. Some of these bricks remind me why it's taking so long. It also doesn't help that they are all different lengths, widths and heights!! I still think it is worth it because they are soooooo cool looking! 8-)
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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by towtruck » October 17th, 2020, 6:42 pm

Coming along!



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Dargo » October 17th, 2020, 6:53 pm

I like. Looks like a fun and unique build. Should work very well.


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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » October 17th, 2020, 7:09 pm

Dargo wrote:
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I like. Looks like a fun and unique build. Should work very well.


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Thanks Dargo! I sure hope it works well!!!



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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » October 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm

towtruck wrote:
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Coming along!
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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by towtruck » October 17th, 2020, 8:12 pm

I have an area on my back patio I was going to build in a set up like yours. I have water, sewer, and natural gas within feet of it and could enclose it all up to the house and have a great set up with a sink, natural gas BBQ, and a smoker on the end. The only thing stopping me from building it is our summers are too hot to be outside comfortably. We never go out on the patio in the summer and the rest of the year we would not use it enough. I still may build it some day anyway.
I want to put it behind this wall and attach it to the house on the left and go all the way out to the end of the wall.
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Re: Brick grill and smoker build!

Post by Cole Leffert » October 17th, 2020, 8:21 pm

towtruck wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 8:12 pm
I have an area on my back patio I was going to build in a set up like yours. I have water, sewer, and natural gas within feet of it and could enclose it all up to the house and have a great set up with a sink, natural gas BBQ, and a smoker on the end. The only thing stopping me from building it is our summers are too hot to be outside comfortably. We never go out on the patio in the summer and the rest of the year we would not use it enough. I still may build it some day anyway.
I want to put it behind this wall and attach it to the house on the left and go all the way out to the end of the wall.
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Nice looking patio! I like the trellis you have! Something like that would be great to have over my area! It would help a lot with the heat of the sun!
You may use it, if it's out there begging to be cooked on!



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Post by dacolson » October 17th, 2020, 11:57 pm

I love the brick work Cole. Those old bricks are so cool. Reborn as a smoker - doesn’t get any better.



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