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BBQ Wood selection

Post by Gizmo » March 15th, 2012, 8:49 pm

By no means am I the final authority on BBQ wood but I have used a few in my travels as many of you have too.
Please add to this as you cook with new woods so maybe we can come up with a good list of opinions to help all of us get a handle on it.
I apologize for some of my terminology but I grew up with them and this aint an exact science... :)

General Observations:

Don't waste your money on lumber i.e. oak boards from an old household project - it's been kiln-dried and will usually only yield heat - almost no flavor compared to the tree before the saw mill. You can get heat from charcoal for a lot less money.

Bark should be limited to the natural level.
i.e.: just the outside surface of a 3 inch round - don't haul home a bunch of the "bark cuts" from the local saw mill cause you'll end up with over 50% bark - not good flavor. and assort as you throw in your wood throughout the cook

Only fruit-bearing trees should be used - never burn pine or fir, etc. you'll ruin the meat and possibly the cake in the smoker - have to strip it and start over.

To my knowledge, Hickory is the only wood you can cut in the morning and cook on it that night. Everything else should be blocked, split, ricked and let dry/season for at least 6 weeks if not 4 to 6 months. After about 2 years, most woods will get "doty" and won't yield much heat and start to smell "dusty" so I never hold mine longer than a year so I can burn it before it reaches that age.

For blending purposes I group woods in three categories: Strong, Fruit and Mild.

Strong: Hickory, Mesquite, Ash
Fruit: Apple, pear, peach, plum, grapevine, pecan, cherry, etc. (ornamental varieties not included - example: Bradford pear)
Mild: oak, alder, mulberry



My favorite technique (partly because I live in Nebraska where we don't have much for fruit woods) is to blend Hickory (my favorite) with one of the fruits. Maybe 1 part Hickory to 2 or 3 parts apple. Just throwing in 1 split of Hickory with 2-3 splits of apple is close enough. If you're using a pellet drive then just count paint cans of each into a big trash bag - you get the idea. Same with making chips with a sawzall so you can burn them over charcoal. OH! and keep and bag and label your sawdust - great for cold smoking - for that cold smoker you're going to build someday.

A couple observations:
Not sure about Walnut but I've heard bad things so I've never tried it.
I've heard pecan shells are great to cook on. You can buy pecan shells perty reasonable (50 cents/pound) from places that sell the pecans. Or you could use them like wood chips on a charcoal fire...
Mulberry doesn't seem to put out the heat like the others so you may have to help it out...


Hope this helps. :)


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by The Czar » March 15th, 2012, 9:09 pm

Rick, the only thing I see wrong is the Ash....never heard anything positive about it? :huh:


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by Gizmo » March 15th, 2012, 9:14 pm

That's what the Whiskey Creek chain uses up this way...
I cooked with a little in January - it was so-so but still too green so I'm waiting for mine to season... maybe June...


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by Jethro1 » March 16th, 2012, 8:46 am

We have a lot of fruit trees around here and so far apple and peach are my favorite. Peach has a mild but very nice finish to it. Not over bearing at all. Thanks for the article. :-bd


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by Smokeone » March 16th, 2012, 1:55 pm

Nice work Rick! Looks spot on from my travels!
I have not tried ash tho, but there is some around here. Will have to give it a go.

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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by Gizmo » March 16th, 2012, 6:02 pm

I'd have to say peach is my favorite from the fruit bunch but apple is a darn close 2nd place. :)


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by gusibole » June 4th, 2012, 6:27 pm

Ok, what can anybody tell me about beech or choke cherry wood for smokin'!


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Post by Gizmo » June 4th, 2012, 7:02 pm

I'd like to know too ... :)


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by PressureRanger » June 4th, 2012, 8:34 pm

The Choke Cherry is a variation of cherries, so I imagine the wood would be similar to cherry, so... :-bd

As far as the beech wood goes, it is a hardwood, and it does bear nuts (beechnut), and in my opinion any hardwood that bears fruits or nuts is worth a try. I also came across some info that says beech is used by the germans for smoking malt for beer making to give certain beers a smokey flavor, and that beech is also used to smoke some cheeses.

Lastly on the subject of beech wood, since Budweiser is "Beechwood Aged" ...if it's good enough for Budweiser, you gotta at least give it a shot.

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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by Gizmo » June 4th, 2012, 8:59 pm

Thanks PR!
I think I can even come up with a little choke cherry around these parts ... :)


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by SoloQue » June 4th, 2012, 9:19 pm

Aside from getting shot at the local orchard, is there a known market to pick up the fruit woods? I use quite a bit of pecan but would like to venture into peach or apple. The friendly folks down here just don't take kindly when I ask them if they have any limbs lying about. I swear it's as if I am asking to chop down one of their trees. Just curious, I may have to venture up to Illinois to scrounge some up. I'm wanting something for Brisket to push the flavor profile, right now I'm thinking apple but I end up asking if I really want sweet brisket.


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by PvilleComp » June 5th, 2012, 7:21 am

I did Apple and Hickory on my last brisket and it was great. The apple added a nice taste but did not sweeten it up too much.

I know you guys mostly burn logs, but do the Chunks at Home Debit work? I usually just throw a chunk or two of Apple in at a time (once every 90 min or so) and maybe 2 or 3 total chunks of Hickory for the butts and Brisket. You guys are working with bigger smoke chambers then I am, but I would imagine it would work just using more chunks.

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They even have Olive Wood, which I never thought of using.



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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by alleyrat58 » June 5th, 2012, 10:47 am

The best wood I ever got my hands on was a hunk of Pear tree from my old man's back yard that fell over in a storm. I cut it up seasoned it a couple of months and smoked all summer with it last year. LOVED the flavor we got out of it. Right now I am going through an apple tree that my uncle wanted gone. I think that the apple burns hotter than the pear, but it also had longer to season than the pear.

I have never used chunks from a bag, they always seemed too dry for my liking. I have used maple, walnut, and black walnut quite a bit. A buddy of mine has a lot of walnut trees on his property. The black walnut burns hot but has little flavor. The walnut has a better flavor. Any time he says he wants a tree gone I fire up the Stihl and go take care of it.


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by chvojka » June 16th, 2012, 10:56 am

I have a crabapple tree that needs to come down. Would it be worth smoking with?



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Post by Gizmo » June 16th, 2012, 11:01 am

It should be okay chvojka - try it first on some cheap chicken and see - I've never heard about crabapple before - and let us know ... :)


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Post by maccas66 » June 16th, 2012, 7:53 pm

I thought I`d heard that crabapple is ok to use!, but I am getting old I think!.....I`ve go some olive tree`s that arent doing much, some feed back on them would be good! :D


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Post by DUAYNE B » June 16th, 2012, 8:09 pm

my would supplier has a bunch of olive he offered me and havent heard much about using it, so if anyone has thoughts :beer:



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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by SoloQue » June 16th, 2012, 8:18 pm

Another web site posted this about olive
Olive
Smoke flavor similar to mesquite but lighter
Poultry


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Post by The Czar » June 16th, 2012, 8:18 pm

Interesting.....do they grow olives down there?



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Post by maccas66 » June 22nd, 2012, 7:26 pm

dcman wrote:Interesting.....do they grow olives down there?
:? :huh: Down where?

I went looking for wood last weekend, and saw this sign, he`s not real happy about the wood he is selling tho!


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Post by PressureRanger » June 22nd, 2012, 7:37 pm

I've never heard of a manure tree before...must be an Australian Tree


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Post by SoloQue » June 22nd, 2012, 7:54 pm

hmmm, good for butts no doubt :D


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Post by DUAYNE B » June 22nd, 2012, 9:22 pm

Olive trees are very plentiful here in phoenix,,,i could probably get all i want, but know nothing about it for cooking



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Post by maccas66 » June 23rd, 2012, 3:07 am

PR, I thought he meant it was shit fire wood!..................... :oopssign: :D


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Re: BBQ Wood selection

Post by PvilleComp » June 23rd, 2012, 8:41 pm

Is that where they make Kingsford Tree Turds?



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